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Post by wiscoscorprider on Nov 7, 2013 16:08:15 GMT -5
Hi - I purchased a 76 Whip with blue flake hood a couple years ago. Now I am trying to fix it up and finally got around to the hood. The hood it came with was so cracked up that I didnt realize this issue until I found a replacement...
Along the right side, just to the right of the fan intake, there is about a 15 degree bend in the belly pan. It is completely straight on the left side. Looks about like the bend you would see in a TK whip, but its ONLY ON THE ONE SIDE! So when you lower the hood, it does not fit into the trim.
It does not apear that it was damaged, and its impossible to bend it back into allignment.
Ill post a picture later.
ANY ideas on what the heck this sled body is?
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Post by scorplover on Nov 7, 2013 18:06:44 GMT -5
A blue metal flake hood would be from a 1975 model. That may be why it's not fitting on a 76.
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Post by scorp11 on Nov 7, 2013 23:53:40 GMT -5
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Post by wiscoscorprider on Nov 8, 2013 14:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by stingerIII on Nov 8, 2013 19:23:54 GMT -5
That bump or bend in the belly pan & bumper(right hand side) should not be there.My brothers 1977 Whip took a 1975 hood with very little adjustments.
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Post by scorp11 on Nov 8, 2013 22:40:12 GMT -5
based on the serial number tag, the chassis is a 76 and as stinger said, the bump out doesn't belong there. Looks like someone made their own custom fan housing to airbox seal and to make it fit without hitting the bent the bumper out there.
The way I would think to bend it back would be to unbolt the back part of the bumper on that side and brace the bumper where it is pushed out. Pull the back out to straighten it, then bend the whole works back (so it bends at the front bend) so you can bolt the bumper on.
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Post by wiscoscorprider on Nov 10, 2013 0:04:22 GMT -5
THANK You!!!
Was going nuts thinking there was some other hood out there that would fit it.
The fan connection is my work. The rubber gasket was all dry rotted away.
Trying to get the carb adjusted right now. I've got the air screw out 1.25 turns, which is where I got highest rpm. Then adjusted idle screw so rpms back down to about 2100
Problem is now it seems to bog out when I get on the throttle. I can feather it up to WOT and goes good but something not quite right. Any advice? Just cleaned the walbro carb
Walbro
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Post by ddub on Nov 10, 2013 8:09:27 GMT -5
I would guess that the bump out on the side is because it was pushed back on the front.
So, you generally repair in the opposite of how the damage happened. So, the front may need to be addressed to fix the side.
But if you pull the bumper off like Kevin suggested, his way will probably work. I can't tell without more pics. If you try straightening it on the unit, you will probably break the belly pan, if it isn't already.
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Post by scorp11 on Nov 10, 2013 14:58:11 GMT -5
I didn't think of it being bent in the front. To bow it out that bad, it would have to be pushed back quite a bit. Yes, if you are going to try and pull it out via the method I suggested, you will want to drill out the pan rivets. As to the Walbro carb. . . I am the wrong guy to ask. . . They hate me and I'm not overly fond of them either
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Post by wiscoscorprider on Nov 12, 2013 15:56:24 GMT -5
Any place I can get an accurate measurement of what it SHOULD be? I am about to start bending. Belly pan is not damaged so I should be able to get it all back to normal. Suppose I could go to scrap yard and take some measurements off of a junker...
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Post by scorp11 on Nov 12, 2013 19:02:11 GMT -5
I have both a 75 and 76 bumper and pan assembly I can give you some measurements off tomorrow night. If you know how far back from the front you need a measurement will help. Neither of mine have a motor in them so I can't go off that.
I'll see if I can come up with something
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Post by wiscoscorprider on Nov 12, 2013 21:48:16 GMT -5
WOW Scorp11 that would be awesome! Im not certain if thats the only place I'm out of whack so if you are willing to do it, maybe a width from left to right starting at the front, then 6" back, 12" back and 18"… its no further than that.
Also would be nice to have a measure from front to steering column right down the middle. As ddub said it probably took a hit from front causing one side to bow out.
Im fortunate the belly pan isn't split!
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Post by ddub on Nov 12, 2013 23:12:55 GMT -5
Even without measurements from scorp11, you should be able to take a tape and come up with the info that you need.
If you take a tape from the hood hinge to a symmetrical point on each side, that will tell you if your points are the same distance forward.
Now if you take and X that same point and both measurements are the same than you have both length and centerline.
If you have mismatched measurements, there lies your answer.
I can't see how this would be pushed out on the side without being hit on the front. Unless someone pulled the side out which I find hard to understand how that would happen.
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Post by wiscoscorprider on Nov 12, 2013 23:34:13 GMT -5
I agree ddub - - I am guessing it was hit front left (although i don't see any evidence) and that caused buckling on a plane from that point through the sled where it ended up pushing out the opposite side. thanks for the geometry lesson!!! looking for my tape and a sheet of paper….
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Post by ddub on Nov 12, 2013 23:54:33 GMT -5
I had a bit more problems than what you had with this one. LOL Front "nun" removed. Going back together somewhat final version, a few things have changed over the years as all projects doo.
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Post by pararailer on Nov 13, 2013 0:56:56 GMT -5
thats not a Scorpion!!?? cool tho. I like the before pics better Dude, all this talk about straightening your bumper. make it run first. On the walbro floater you talk of, I think you need to keep tweeking your needles!! do you have brand new plugs?
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Post by pararailer on Nov 13, 2013 0:59:17 GMT -5
I would just put a 2by4 on there and give it a wack with a BFH!
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Post by wiscoscorprider on Nov 13, 2013 6:54:41 GMT -5
Pararailer - I got the walbro issue worked out. Wasn't carb at all, as I did clean and re-assemble properly. It was a bad belt causing it to bog out - should have looked there first but oh well now i know how a walbro works! Runs like it just came off the line in Crosby! As for the BFH - - I think that is in the future for the bumper! Just want to figure out where it needs to be "persuaded" to move!
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Post by scorp11 on Nov 13, 2013 23:04:19 GMT -5
I didn't get a chance to get in the shed tonight to measure stuff. Tomorrow I should be able to. BFH's break stuff. . Just say no to BFH's
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Post by ddub on Nov 13, 2013 23:05:35 GMT -5
I didn't get a chance to get in the shed tonight to measure stuff. Tomorrow I should be able to. BFH's break stuff. . Just say no to BFH's x2
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